@koosli @hugh the people who design standards for consultation (in e.g. planning) are genuine in a desire that communities be consulted—but it's the nature of the process that power is top-down, so requirements to consult are on the State's terms, not the consultees

@koosli @hugh it's notable that the least effective means of protest and dissent are also the ones that mirror the formalism—when has a petition effectively challenged power? By contrast (thinking of my field) the heritage and anti-planning movements came into existence countering the *process itself*

@koosli @hugh it's an irony I work with every day that heritage, emerging from its Heroic Era of the 1970s as an anti-bureaucratic fury, is now a field of experts, lists, processes and forms


@liamvhogan @koosli @hugh The cucumber gets pickled more than the brine gets cucumbered.

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